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Giving Reins to the States Over Drilling

http://www.nytimes.com -- By proposing to end a century of federal control over oil and gas drilling and coal mining on government lands, Mitt Romney is making a bid for anti-Washington voters in key Western states while dangling the promise of a big reward to major campaign supporters from the energy industry.

Mr. Romney’s plan, which would turn over decision-making on drilling and mining to the states, echoes the “Drill, baby, drill” strategy that another Republican presidential candidate, John McCain, used to great effect in the 2008 campaign.

The federal government owns vast portions of states like New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Alaska. Under President Obama, officials in Washington have played a bigger role in drilling and mining decisions on federal lands in the states, and such involvement ra

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six_ball_man Champion Author Rochester Posts:8,533 Points:1,391,060 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 6:19:10 AM Ignore six_ball_man Report Abuse Sure....why have one set of rules when you can have 50???
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fracknsave Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,666 Points:58,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 12:46:20 PM Ignore fracknsave Report Abuse Probably have to wait until the changing of the guards after the November election.
bwatchingu Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,735 Points:599,670 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:21:31 AM Ignore bwatchingu Report Abuse interesting
ropegun11 Veteran Author Illinois Posts:429 Points:441,605 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 4:13:13 AM Ignore ropegun11 Report Abuse ...I fully agree with Aviator_Rob who said: Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 11:20:55 PM “Teddy was a lot of things that modern-day Republicans can't seem to wrap their heads around. He was a Conservative in the truest sense of the word. That meant conserving the land and leaving a legacy for future generations. That meant not using up this country's resources at a breakneck speed, just to make more money. TR would be disgusted at the corporatization of this country. He fought the corporations harder than any Republican since. Heck, he practically invented anti-trust legislation. Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't be able to recognize his own party today. And neither would Ronald Reagan, for that matter.” ...Personally, it breaks my heart to think that people are willing to sacrifice our federal lands and destroy wildlife just to pad the pockets of Big Oil. When are you "Drill, Baby, Drill"ers gonna wake up and smell the coffee on the fact that if Big Oil does acquire those lands, it will not necessarily and it very likely won't at all translate into lower prices at the pump for us average consumers. Big Oil is still Big Oil & they exist only to increase their bottom line, not for the betterment of mankind. I miss the days of $1.00 or $1.50 a gallon for gas as well, but, seriously people, destroying federal lands and the wildlife that inhabit it and seizing people's family farmland IS NOT a responsible solution to our gas woes! [Edited by: ropegun11 at 8/25/2012 7:19:33 AM EST]
epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,324 Points:1,889,405 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 3:24:46 AM Ignore epf Report Abuse Not in favor of this one my friends!
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,546 Points:764,970 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:55:12 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse It will be interesting to see this proposal being advocated and opposed over the next few months.
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uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,048 Points:1,002,000 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:40:20 PM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse No But I certainly don't need some lazy POS telling me that I have to pay for more of his gov't handout lifestyle There is no one in DC that can tell me how to live my life better PERIOD
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:32:39 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Are you one of those that likes to quote Michael Douglas in Wall Street? You need some better role models.
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jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,891 Points:771,295 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:26:07 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse They won't police themselves..
uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,048 Points:1,002,000 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:25:42 PM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse are you a supporter? pun intended or are you a payer as in payer to those that like to collect for not doing anything? you know, democrats [Edited by: uptherefiners at 8/25/2012 12:27:39 AM EST]
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,891 Points:771,295 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:25:40 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse More crooks
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:22:22 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse So, what do you call Fox News, @rahcat? Fair and balanced? RIIIIGGGHT!
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:20:55 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Teddy was a lot of things that modern-day Republicans can't seem to wrap their heads around. He was a Conservative in the truest sense of the word. That meant conserving the land and leaving a legacy for future generations. That meant not using up this country's resources at a breakneck speed, just to make more money. TR would be disgusted at the corporatization of this country. He fought the corporations harder than any Republican since. Heck, he practically invented anti-trust legislation. Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't be able to recognize his own party today. And neither would Ronald Reagan, for that matter.
uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,048 Points:1,002,000 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:15:49 PM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse uhhh aviator...you do realize that teddy was a bull moose republican..kind of against your fairy godmother hero
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,463 Points:661,225 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:13:52 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse NY Times....LIBERAL RAG!
bulbous Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,590 Points:112,260 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:08:08 PM Ignore bulbous Report Abuse romney has proven himself both a puppet for the rich and a complete idiot on any kind of policy.nobody knows what he believes,including him.
lindyleigh123 Rookie Author Virginia Posts:42 Points:35,075 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:06:17 PM Ignore lindyleigh123 Report Abuse ????
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,846 Points:1,611,275 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:58:59 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Big Oil and other corporations already have too much influence over public policy, especially in the western states. Romney would simply hand over the reins and rode along as a passenger while the corporate “people” ride roughshod over the little folks.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:58:21 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse National Parks are held in trust by the federal government for the American people, @wz. They are not for sale. Teddy Roosevelt created them in order to protect them from private developers. Otherwise the Koch brothers would make Yellowstone their own private estate.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:2,265,640 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:56:23 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse It should be some form of a shred decision if the land remains federally owned.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:55:24 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse To all those drill, baby, drillers out there, ask yourself "What do the American people actually get out of that?" After all, that oil belongs to them, and not the oil companies. The federal govenment should just hire the oil companies to drill the wells and then the government should sell the oil itself on the market. All proceeds would go into the U.S. Treasury, instead of Big Oil's pocket.
GigHarborHound Champion Author Tacoma Posts:2,527 Points:486,540 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:54:46 PM Ignore GigHarborHound Report Abuse YES
wz Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,479 Points:1,275,365 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:53:26 PM Ignore wz Report Abuse Most of the land owned by the federal government is not authorized by the Constitution. Only D.C., military bases and federal buildings are to be owned by the federal government. There is no provision made for national parks, monuments, forests or reserves. They should be sold to the states or private owners, with the proceeds used to pay down the national debt.
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,655 Points:766,620 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:52:55 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse Oh
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:51:14 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse I see problems with this idea.
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,943 Points:1,712,220 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:51:11 PM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse rein in the EPA and that will help [Edited by: gmcgas at 8/24/2012 11:51:56 PM EST]
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:50:42 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse And thus continues Big Oil's strategy of divide and conquer. It's too hard for them to fight the federal government so now they'll just fight each state government one at a time and still get their way. State governments have absolutely no idea of what's coming.
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:268,265 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:50:35 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse We need to be cutting the feds out of the loop.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,615 Points:3,493,730 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:49:24 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Shut down or scale back the EPA and the country will be better off. The US does need to make more use of its own resources.
nvlkoala Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:198 Points:247,650 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:49:22 PM Ignore nvlkoala Report Abuse short term gain for the state long term loss for the everyone
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:48:02 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Republicans just found out that there's oil in Teddy Roosevelt's nose on Mount Rushmore. Drill, baby, drill!
giraffefan All-Star Author Indiana Posts:980 Points:258,650 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:47:15 PM Ignore giraffefan Report Abuse Hope they don't go overboard
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,207 Points:516,800 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:47:07 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse This is just politics. It won't happen.
aggietim Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,756 Points:692,875 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:46:38 PM Ignore aggietim Report Abuse ok
nozzle46 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:6,685 Points:1,471,850 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:44:34 PM Ignore nozzle46 Report Abuse Leave some wilderness. Quality of life is as important as the Almighty Dollar.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,464 Points:1,709,885 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:43:25 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse A lot of responsibility
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,531 Points:931,720 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:39:35 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse States should have the right to drill if it doesn't impact the enviroment in a negative way.
furiousfowl Champion Author Riverside Posts:16,850 Points:2,748,205 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:39:05 PM Ignore furiousfowl Report Abuse Sounds like a public screwing to me.
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,869 Points:699,240 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:38:27 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse The more we let the government decide, the more they want to take over.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,777 Points:642,860 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:37:39 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse The states deserve more control over their resources than they are allowed to now.
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:14,149 Points:2,592,415 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:36:38 PM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse The feds really don;t have any say so if you want my opinion.
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,389 Points:1,353,920 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:34:19 PM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse Romney knows what he is going. This should be a state decision.
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:611 Points:597,700 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:30:10 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse Okay.
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,293 Points:1,093,810 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:27:27 PM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Romney would destroy our environment, fortunately he will lose the election.
Skychief All-Star Author Florida Posts:723 Points:400,530 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:23:37 PM Ignore Skychief Report Abuse States rights.
Taurus1 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,125 Points:1,672,750 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:23:00 PM Ignore Taurus1 Report Abuse We'll see...
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