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Nissan investigates Leaf battery complaints

GasBuddy Blog -- Slowly developing consumer interest in electric vehicles has been attributed, primarily, to two obstacles; sticker shock and apprehension over limited mileage and battery range.

Nissan Motor Co now plans an independent investigation prompted by a small group of Leaf owners who believe their batteries are aging too fast, according to Lindsay Chappell of Automotive News.

The good news here is that Nissan is being proactive; it did not wait for NHTSA to intercede or ask for a recall. Instead it launched an investigation with an independent third-party. Former GM marketing manager Chelsea Sexton has agreed to form a worldwide group to investigate the problem independently of Nissan.

Chappell reports that only...

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Submitted Oct 02, 2012 By: PD

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RINdriver Rookie Author Indiana Posts:53 Points:28,720 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 10:26:11 AM Ignore RINdriver Report Abuse the mod keeps taking off the first part of the link. the site is: www (dot) pbs (dot) org. then the rest of the link.
RINdriver Rookie Author Indiana Posts:53 Points:28,720 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 10:24:54 AM Ignore RINdriver Report Abuse /now/shows/223/electric-car-timeline.html
RINdriver Rookie Author Indiana Posts:53 Points:28,720 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 10:24:28 AM Ignore RINdriver Report Abuse isn't one of the more driving (higher mileage) for less expense the purpose of purchasing an electric or hybrid vehicle? shouldn't the developers understand this? the first electric (battery powered) vehicle was developed almost 200 years ago. /now/shows/223/electric-car-timeline.html when will some real progress be made?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:04:14 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse maybe Nissan learned from the mistakes of other companies?
wamster Champion Author Houston Posts:4,255 Points:694,930 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 4:12:29 AM Ignore wamster Report Abuse Nice to read about a company taking a pro-active approach. They seem concerned and are investigating the complaints and taking the buyers concerns seriously.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,003 Points:598,710 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:32:49 AM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Ditto -- " Already commented on this "news" yesterday! "
Tutootin Champion Author Toronto Posts:10,121 Points:3,077,430 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 8:55:11 AM Ignore Tutootin Report Abuse Already commented on this "news" yesterday!
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:328,585 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 8:41:09 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Not good for Nissan.
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:7,893 Points:2,099,230 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:46:29 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse One day we will look back and say remember when electric vehicles couldn't even go 100 miles on a single charge.
JediKnight Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,848 Points:2,033,835 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:42:42 AM Ignore JediKnight Report Abuse Besides High Mileage... it makes you wonder if the Owners of the High Milages Leafs may have been using "unconventional" Charging/Maintenance Practices too. (Charging too much, Not enough, under poor power conditions... which may have created/caused damage to the Charger and/or Battery Pack.) Will be interested in hearing the results of the Investigation. Regardless of how a vehicle is powered... if you own the same model (or are considering one) you want to know what the best practices are in keeping it running at Peak condition.
GasholeMI Champion Author Lansing Posts:10,143 Points:1,719,095 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:39:28 AM Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse Just imagine how high electric prices would be if there was massive use of electricity by autos.
BlueVanGroup Champion Author Colorado Posts:7,204 Points:1,528,495 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:39:22 AM Ignore BlueVanGroup Report Abuse Once they solve the portable energy storage problem electric vehicles will become ubiquitous.
LostAgain2009 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:2,398 Points:711,685 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:36:02 AM Ignore LostAgain2009 Report Abuse What a stupid comment, sparkie. No sedan is going to fare well in a head-on with a rig.
timesaverinc Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,473 Points:294,615 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:35:34 AM Ignore timesaverinc Report Abuse I didn't see that coming
donny47 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,661 Points:986,415 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:34:36 AM Ignore donny47 Report Abuse not practical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sparkie951 Champion Author Roanoke Posts:4,180 Points:851,960 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:33:57 AM Ignore sparkie951 Report Abuse If you ever see a leaf in a head on collision with a Tractor Trailer you will know where it got its name the leaf.... These batteries are not good safe items and that is putting it nicely.
peanutsMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,682 Points:385,890 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:33:48 AM Ignore peanutsMN Report Abuse Old news.
CDMAuto Champion Author Connecticut Posts:3,798 Points:754,890 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:32:59 AM Ignore CDMAuto Report Abuse OLD
paulp24 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:4,537 Points:822,325 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:32:39 AM Ignore paulp24 Report Abuse Uh...ok again
traumer Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,374 Points:1,338,450 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:32:26 AM Ignore traumer Report Abuse old news, dump it
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:6,671 Points:1,584,465 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:31:58 AM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse Just another reason to not buy an EV.
mberg Champion Author Houston Posts:3,812 Points:960,605 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:29:20 AM Ignore mberg Report Abuse This article is getting rancid.
Brunduski All-Star Author Missouri Posts:534 Points:189,925 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:28:48 AM Ignore Brunduski Report Abuse Battery power is too limited yet. Everyone who has owned a laptop knows that you can count on a lithium battery about 3 years. Why would one in a car be any different. This shouldn't be a big shock. Not to mention that you can't get distance in mileage out of them. Most vehicles are designed to get you about 400 miles on a tank of gas. EV's can't come close unless you are driving in a gocart.
WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,369 Points:496,620 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:27:08 AM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Ok.
momof5MN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:4,054 Points:214,260 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:27:00 AM Ignore momof5MN Report Abuse Yesterday's news.
ibhenry Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,536 Points:457,195 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:26:18 AM Ignore ibhenry Report Abuse Batteries wear out. No getting around that fact.
JXQW Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,787 Points:684,175 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:23:52 AM Ignore JXQW Report Abuse EV has long way to go
mikerroy Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,566 Points:720,920 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:23:04 AM Ignore mikerroy Report Abuse Ok
91Hilux Champion Author New Haven Posts:2,172 Points:682,670 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:21:38 AM Ignore 91Hilux Report Abuse Hey DABEE1073: When an American company makes a vehicle that actually performs as advertized and is set at a competitive price, I will. You want to drive the most "made in America" car on the market today (and for the past 3 years)? Get a Toyota Corolla. My 1991 Toyota Hilux has over 250k on the dial (only half of it was on paved roads) and it's still running strong. Starts every time, and has NO body rust...
neptune2008 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,573 Points:1,669,725 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:21:32 AM Ignore neptune2008 Report Abuse well hmmmmmm
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,067 Points:1,970,110 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:20:38 AM Ignore esquared Report Abuse Hmmm...wonder where I've read this before....
Topless2012 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,432 Points:481,065 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:20:28 AM Ignore Topless2012 Report Abuse Need more time to develope
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,094 Points:2,319,430 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:18:46 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Issues come with new technology.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:9,082 Points:2,757,820 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:18:24 AM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse Not good for the electric cars.
TXGasPriceSpy Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:7,810 Points:1,472,275 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:18:03 AM Ignore TXGasPriceSpy Report Abuse If you want an EV go ahead and get one. Good luck!!!
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,147 Points:1,927,365 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:17:40 AM Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse Leaf... Volt... flops.
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CorvairHaven Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,354 Points:1,453,940 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:15:48 AM Ignore CorvairHaven Report Abuse And now they will bring back Datsun, but not in the USA.
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ciimike Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,638 Points:1,062,060 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:12:49 AM Ignore ciimike Report Abuse This is a definite issue with the EVs. When researching this I found this issue and upon investigation, I also found that the replacement battery runs any where from $3000 to $5000, depending on which hybrid you get. This deterred me from considering a hybrid when I was in the market.
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