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Car traction: Are the tires the problem... or is it you?

GasBuddy Blog -- How does your car handle?

The experts at Turnfast.com say "handling" is all about maximizing tire traction. Regardless of how much advanced hardware the car has, the bottom line is that the car's entire braking, accelerating, and cornering performance has to be translated through the four small patches of rubber in contact with the road.

Think about it. Ignore absolutely everything about a car except for how much rubber is in contact with the road. Maximizing the performance of these four small patches is what "handling" is all about.

Maximum traction, of course, is affected by the suspension design, the type of tire, it's rubber compound, its contact patch size, and several other factors. Once a given car...

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Submitted Aug 30, 2012 By: PD

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Soglaos Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:2,770 Points:736,485 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:55:56 PM Ignore Soglaos Report Abuse hmmm maybe both
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Tnerbeel Champion Author Houston Posts:8,814 Points:1,746,885 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 5:07:00 AM Ignore Tnerbeel Report Abuse T disagree that "Maximizing the performance of these four small patches is what "handling" is all about." It has a whole lot more to do with the suspension system which determines how the loads are applied to those tires.
40mpgsaturn Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,485 Points:519,455 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 5:05:02 AM Ignore 40mpgsaturn Report Abuse Could be a combination of tires & driver.
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my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:6,064 Points:1,668,350 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:56:45 AM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse In some cases its both, others its either the driver or the tires.
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QualTekGuy Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,056 Points:731,900 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:51:54 AM Ignore QualTekGuy Report Abuse People need to drive, when they are behind the wheel, not participate in any number of non-driving activities that seem to be much more enticing.
slkmoo Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,243 Points:327,525 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:51:30 AM Ignore slkmoo Report Abuse excellent tires, excellent traction, excellent fuel economy, all runs together, winter tires are just as important
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pnd1 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:5,201 Points:1,065,110 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:48:35 AM Ignore pnd1 Report Abuse It is worth paying for good tires. I have seen too many accidents happen because of worn out tires. It just isn't worth taking a chance. You can't afford good tires? Eat beans and rice and buy the good tires.
gsipper Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,098 Points:656,025 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:48:31 AM Ignore gsipper Report Abuse Why is it either or. Could be both.
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:8,713 Points:1,637,110 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:48:24 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse And when there's wate on the highway,those patches are off the road many times.That's when handling comes in .
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,970 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:47:47 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Drive with common sense, watch the road and your speed, maintain correct tire pressure, watch tire wear surface patterns and correct if necessary (i.e. steering alignment) - everything will take care of itself. Always pay attention to driving and do not drive distracted! I have driven with new tires, used tires and well worn tires and have never had a problem. With driverless, computer, WiFi vehicles, the problem may not be 'you' anymore. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
jpd683 Champion Author Scranton Posts:3,909 Points:1,544,555 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:46:53 AM Ignore jpd683 Report Abuse Sometimes over inflating tires can cause them to wear in the middle causing less traction on the roadway.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,231 Points:612,235 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:46:52 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse It's always comforting to blame the manufacturers when the human doesn't understand the basics of driving. Out-driving your tires, suspension, or capability is no one's fault except the driver but taking the blame is a lot less fun than getting a lawyer to pass the blame.
sparkie951 Champion Author Roanoke Posts:4,165 Points:849,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:46:14 AM Ignore sparkie951 Report Abuse It most case it is the DRIVER... DRIVING HABITS... When you have to get up to 55 to get to the next traffic light that is 1 block away, you will probably loose traction. If you drive like an idiot on ice and snow, DOH...
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lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:8,726 Points:1,715,020 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 4:45:06 AM Ignore lindact Report Abuse In this economy, folks will keep tires longer than they should.
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